Legislature(1995 - 1996)

05/05/1996 10:05 AM Senate FIN

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       SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO.  314(JUD)                           
       "An  Act  relating to  domestic  violence and  to crime                 
  victims and    witnesses; amending Rules 3, 4,  65, and 100,                 
  Alaska Rules of     Civil  Procedure,  Rules  505  and  613,                 
  Alaska Rules of Evidence,     and  Rule  9, Alaska  Rules of                 
  Administration; and providing for  an effective date."                       
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford introduced  the bill and said  he wanted                 
  to  spend  enough  time  to  know  that  the  committee  was                 
  achieving a balance  between protecting  those in  immediate                 
  danger and the  converse side which  in some cases would  be                 
  punishment before trial and before  determination of guilt.                  
  That is a difficult area to strike a reasonable balance.  By                 
  the same token there are  people being killed because  there                 
  is no protection before a determination of guilt because the                 
  system does not react that fast.                                             
                                                                               
  Richard  Vitale, staff  aide to  Representative  Parnell was                 
  invited to join the committee.  He said the major changes to                 
  current  practice  would be  that  of the  protective orders                 
  going from 90 days, with a 45 day extension,  to six months.                 
  Ex parte orders,  which were emergency orders  under current                 
  law, stay  at 20 days.  There is  also a new emergency 3-day                 
  order, another model code suggestion.   Other points include                 
  training for  police agencies  and other professionals  that                 
  encounter  domestic violence and  a central protective order                 
  registry system so restraining orders can be tracked.                        
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford referred  to adjustments in the  new CS.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  One was the elimination  of defense that the subject  of the                 
  order was invited back  on the premises to fix  something or                 
  to see children; another was the  duration of time.  Senator                 
  Sharp referred to page  21, lines 18 - 20 and  asked if this                 
  section  expanded  the  role of  the  office  of  the public                 
  advocate counsel beyond where they are now.                                  
                                                                               
  Laurie  Otto,  Criminal  Division,  Department  of  Law  was                 
  invited to join  the committee.   She said this was  current                 
  practice.  This section  was requested by the office  of the                 
  public advocate to  narrow the  circumstances in which  they                 
  could  be appointed and  not allow  it be  expanded further.                 
  The  Court  is   presently  appointing  them   very  rarely.                 
  Further, she  said the petitions were civil and not criminal                 
  actions.   Individuals under eighteen  years of age  may not                 
  file civil actions.  Minors are considered incompetent to do                 
  that.  Senator Sharp further referred to page 23, lines 19 -                 
   21  (e) which says  the court  may not  deny a  petition no                 
  matter how long the period of time has been since the act of                 
  domestic  violence  happened.    He   wanted  to  know  what                 
  constraints  were  in  place  that  would enable  denial  of                 
  petition if a considerable lapse of time had occurred  since                 
  the act of  violence.  Ms.  Otto said  this section was  the                 
  topic of considerable discussion in the judiciary committee.                 
  The  chair  of that  committee  felt strongly  this language                 
  should stay in  as written.  They  felt if a limit  were put                 
  in, it  would be  artificial.   This is  better left to  the                 
  discretion of the  court.  Co-chairman Halford said this was                 
  already  left  to the  discretion of  the  court.   Ms. Otto                 
  referred to the problems with rural areas being able to file                 
  a petition  timely.   Senator Sharp  said he  would be  more                 
  comfortable if the  intent were more  specific.  He said  he                 
  would prefer  a requirement that  the court find  the victim                 
  was under definite threat,  in order to keep  retaliation in                 
  check.  The victim should have to act in a reasonable length                 
  of time.   In response to discussion between  Senators Sharp                 
  and Rieger,  Ms. Otto said it was better to leave the matter                 
  to the court's discretion as the judiciary is better able to                 
  weigh all the conditions.                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford referred to a hypothetical dysfunctional                 
  couple  with  alcohol problems.    In  response to  the  co-                 
  chairman, Ms. Otto  said there is  a provision that says  in                 
  getting   a  protective  order   the  court   requires  full                 
  disclosure of any other matters pending.  It is necessary to                 
  protect those individuals who need it, but likewise not give                 
  others a vehicle  for abusing the  system.  This model  code                 
  was developed by the National Council on Juvenile and Family                 
  Court Judges.  They are the ones who see these cases and see                 
  the abuses all the time.                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator Donley asked about mediation provisions of the bill.                 
  Mr. Vitale  said the sponsor  liked the original  version of                 
  the bill which did not included the amendment referred to by                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator Donley.   This  would allow  the court to  recommend                 
  mediation if three standards were met:  the victim agreed to                 
  the mediation, a  representative was  at the mediation,  and                 
  the mediator was trained  in domestic violence cases.    The                 
  original  language,  as  introduced  by  the  sponsor,  only                 
  allowed mediation in  domestic violence situations  when the                 
  victim requested it, had a representative present during the                 
  mediation,  and  the  mediator   was  trained  in   domestic                 
  violence.  The  judiciary adopted an amendment to  allow the                 
  court to recommend  mediation to the  parties.  The  sponsor                 
  preferred  that amendment  not be  included but  it did  not                 
  break  the  bill for  him.     Ms. Otto  said  mediation was                 
  premised on the parties partaking on equal standing, and the                 
  mediator  will help  the  parties reach  an  agreement.   In                 
  domestic  violence  cases  the  parties  do not  have  equal                 
  standing.    Both  the  Canadian  and  American  Society  of                 
  Mediators  have recommended  against  mediation in  domestic                 
  violence cases.   In  many cases, armed  guards are  present                 
  during  these  mediations  due  to  the possibility  of  the                 
  mediation triggering further assaults or violence.                           
                                                                               
  Chris Christensen, Alaska  Court System was invited  to join                 
  the  committee.    He  said  the  court would  like  to  see                 
  mediation banned in domestic violence  cases.  While a small                 
  number of cases are referred for  mediation, once the matter                 
  reaches the  court, mediation is  pretty much  useless.   In                 
  response  to Senator Donley, Mr. Christensen said he did not                 
  think  the  court system  would  object to  the  addition of                 
  language providing that if the court suggested mediation, it                 
  advise  the  parties they  have the  right  not to  agree to                 
  mediation,  and  their  decision will  not  bias  the court.                 
  Senator Zharoff  referred to sections 33 and 28 regarding if                 
  the victim is notified of all rights concerned with filing a                 
  petition and if granted  the protective order would  only be                 
  good  for six months.    Ms. Otto indicated that was correct                 
  and  the  petition could  be  filed  at any  time  after the                 
  commission of  the abuse.    She said  that  if there  is  a                 
  significant lapse  of time, the  court is unlikely  to grant                 
  anything beyond that indicated on page 21, lines 30 - 31 and                 
  page 22, lines 1 - 3.   That would be the minimum protection                 
  and is adequate  for many.   In response to a  question from                 
  Senator Zharoff, Ms.  Otto said she  did not know if  VPSO's                 
  were required to  be certified as  peace officers to  handle                 
  domestic violence cases.  Ms.  Anne Carpeneti, Department of                 
  Law indicated that they were.                                                
                                                                               
  (tape SF-96, #111, switch to side 2)                                         
                                                                               
  Ms. Otto  explained that  under a  civil proceeding  6-month                 
  orders give full due  process rights.  This process  is used                 
  every day in this state to make fairly significant decisions                 
  against  people.     However,  there  is  a   provision  for                 
  modification  of protective orders (page 24,  line 27).  She                 
  explained the language  on page 25, line  2 and said  it was                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  verbatim current law.  She said the  court had to schedule a                 
  hearing within twenty days.  She  explained that under an ex                 
  parte order  the  court would  have  to schedule  a  hearing                 
  within  three  days.     Senator  Rieger  referred   to  the                 
  restrictions on the  perpetrator and  asked if the  language                 
  permitted restriction  on the  activity  of the  petitioner.                 
  Ms. Otto said there were no  restrictions but the respondent                 
  could also file  a protective order against  the petitioner.                 
  She further said  the court could  not issue both parties  a                 
  restraining order  under one  petition.   She explained  why                 
  mutual restraining orders were not issued.  There also needs                 
  to be proof of a crime before an order could be entered.                     
                                                                               
  Senator Phillips referred to  section 28.  Ms. Otto  said it                 
  referred to  the advisement  that   police officers  need to                 
  give victims  and it  was a  summary of  the bill.   Senator                 
  Zharoff commented  on  section 28  and said it was  like the                 
  victim's  Miranda rights.   Ms. Otto concurred  and said the                 
  court had  the discretion to order any  or all of the things                 
  that are listed under this section.   However, this does not                 
  expand the  powers of  the Court, and  it does not  give new                 
  rights for the victim.                                                       
                                                                               
  Laurie  Hugenin,  executive   director,  Alaska  Network  on                 
  Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault was invited to join the                 
  committee.   Some  of  the concerns  she addressed  were the                 
  limitation  on protective order time, specifically the first                 
  and second elements  that could be  granted in a  protective                 
  order, asking respondents  to not continue to  break the law                 
  or commit domestic violence, not harass, stalk or intimidate                 
  the victim.  Another  item she addressed was mediation.   As                 
  suggested by American  Bar Association reports in  both 1993                 
  and  1994,  mediation  in  divorce,  custody,  and  domestic                 
  violence  cases   is  not   appropriate.     Mediation   was                 
  detrimental for the victim and children.  She voiced concern                 
  over  court  ordered  mediation and  said  there  were other                 
  avenues that could  be explored.  The network concurred with                 
  most sections of  the bill.   She further  cited that  there                 
  were  thirteen  murders  in  Anchorage  directly  related to                 
  domestic violence.                                                           
                                                                               
  Senator Phillips asked what the standing of the sponsor was,                 
  and  Mr.  Vitale said  they supported  the bill  without the                 
  amendment that was  put in  judiciary.  Co-chairman  Halford                 
  referred to the  orders with extension  of time and said  he                 
  did  not   disagree  with  those,   however,  because   they                 
  represented  a  punishment before  trial,  he asked  if they                 
  would apply in taking property away.  Ms. Otto said the only                 
  things  that  lasted   indefinitely  were  prohibiting   the                 
  respondent  from threatening  or committing  another  act of                 
  violence and  prohibiting  the respondent  from stalking  or                 
  harassing,  directing  the  person  to  stay away  from  the                 
  residence,  school  and  prohibiting  the  respondent   from                 
  entering a propelled vehicle in the possession or control of                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  the petitioner.   Co-chairman Halford  said his concern  was                 
  that the  propelled vehicle may  be that of  the respondent.                 
  The  home may be  that of the  respondent,  The  location of                 
  these items  may be the home  of the respondent,  and it may                 
  have  been the  respondent's home  for twenty years  and the                 
  home of  the victim for six months.   He said there was some                 
  serious trampling of constitutional rights but as long as it                 
  was of short duration and really necessary it was supported.                 
  Ms. Hugenin  asked if  the chairman  would consider  putting                 
  harassing and stalking  into the first element that could be                 
  asked  for and  have that  element be  indefinite.   Senator                 
  Donley moved that  as a  conceptual amendment.   Co-chairman                 
  Halford suggested that number one could be a perpetual order                 
  and  include  stalking  and  harassing.    Senator  Phillips                 
  opposed the amendment.  Co-chairman  Halford said they would                 
  go  back  to  the version  that  Representative  Parnell had                 
  before it came to the Senate  Finance Committee.  Mr. Vitale                 
  said the sponsor  would support that.    Upon a vote  by the                 
  committee  the  conceptual  amendment  was  adopted  without                 
  objection.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Senator Donley  moved amendment  #1 which  would delete  the                 
  ability to recommend mediation.  Senator  Phillips objected.                 
  Co-chairman Halford said  he supported amendment #2  but was                 
  willing to go with the Court system on amendment #1 and  not                 
  support it.  Mr. Vitale voiced his concern of a possible bad                 
  mediator because, as he pointed out, state mediators have no                 
  licenses  or  regulations.    Senator  Zharoff  opposed  the                 
  amendment and said  the court was only  proposing mediation.                 
  Upon  a  vote by  the committee  amendment  #1 failed  to be                 
  adopted.   Senator Donley  moved  amendment #2  and said  it                 
  should be  inserted wherever appropriate  in the bill.   Ms.                 
  Otto  said  it  would go  three  places  in  the bill  which                 
  referred  to  mediation.    Upon  a vote  by  the  committee                 
  amendment #2 was adopted without objection.                                  
                                                                               
  Co-chairman  Halford asked for an  update on the fiscal note                 
  from Department of Public Safety.                                            
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger moved SCS CSHB 314(FIN) and without objection                 
  it  was  reported out  with  individual recommendations  and                 
  fiscal notes of $52.5 Department of Public Safety/AST; $55.0                 
  Department  of  Public  Safety/CDVSA;   zero  Department  of                 
  Administration/OPA;  $55.0  Department of  Corrections; zero                 
  Department  of Public  Safety/Criminal  Records; and  $108.5                 
  Alaska Court System.                                                         
                                                                               

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